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Thank you Discomoose :) Lollyh, so very sorry about Rascal :ratsad:

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Woohoo promotion! Thanks Tails :D

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Thank you :D I got a promotion :yay: lol

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She says she has had the captcha disabled, so the problem should be solved now. Hopefully people are able to join up without hassle if they try again.

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Two of my girls over the years have had strokes. Both were still alive when I found them but suffering side effects ie: paralysis, loss of cognitive function. Sadly there is not much that can be done if they are very far gone, smaller strokes can be treated and rats can recover. Seizures are horrible. Mavdb had a couple of boys with issues, you may be able to find posts here on the forum.

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Thank you caryn.im so heartsore.i went out for dinner last night & he was fine,came back home 1 hour later & found him at the bottom of the cage like he was didnt know where he was . :puppy_dog_eyes: .do you have any knowledge on seizures or strokes?

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Lost my moo lastnight. :ratsad: I'm still in shock.

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You're not mad at all for wanting to help her :ratsad:

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Thank you caryn.yes i know you would.:-).i love her so much.i dont care about the cost.really i dont.even though everyone around me says im mad & just put her down. :bigeyecry: .no unfortunately i don't have an edgars account.

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Sorry you're going through that with your girl. You know I'd opt for the surgery, Dr O says he can do it and I trust him completely. I realise cost is an issue though. Do you have an Edgars acct you can pay with or can you sign a debit order with them? That's what I usually do for larger surgery costs.

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New thread for that might be handy *hugs* Or a new article for the website itself :)


Good point lol So, here goes again...
I'm hoping some of you out there can help me with these q's:

What vitamins do you buy for you rats?
Where do you get them?
How do you determine correct daily dosage?
And depending on form (ie: tablet, liquid), how do you give it to them?
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Good point :loveyoueyes: So, here goes again...
I'm hoping some of you out there can help me with these q's:

What vitamins do you buy for you rats?
Where do you get them?
How do you determine correct daily dosage?
And depending on form (ie: tablet, liquid), how do you give it to them?


There are 2 types of vitamins: Fat soluable and water soluable.

Robalon industries makes a vitamin additive u can add to the drinking water, it's sold as "Hamster tonic" Contains vit B, C etc.
Only add one day of the week when changing water as too much vit can cause kidney stones and vit overdoses. A little goes a long way.

Mirracote contain the fat soluable vitamins. I give my rats a few drops once a week on a little piece of bread, they absolutley love it, to the point of licking the stuff off your fingers.

Hope that helps.

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You can get a bottle of OptiVit that you give in the water. I get mine from my Vet.

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Maureen also mentioned Mirracote to me, would I find it at the vet or the chemist? I've got a few old biddies that could do with an added extra.
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Thanks for the input everyone :loveyoueyes: Will ask my vet if they stock any when I go in for the Baytril/Doxy again.
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I just give my boys BettaWay Women vitamins. I roughly worked the dose out according to the fat soluble vitamins (A, D, E, and K are stored in the body) because those can be toxic when too much is ingested over long periods. Water soluble is removed through waste. I crush the tablet after removing the casing and then take an amount equal to about a small grain of rice and mix into food. I give it to them every 2 or 3 days. :loveyoueyes:

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sorry to restart an old thread... I got some kiddie vitamins for myself, because I hate swallowing tablets and those omega fish oil things are revolting! The kids ones are much nicer. I've given my girls a taste of them both. They're nice and sweet, so they love them. I only give it once every 2 weeks or so and then only half a tablet to chew between the 2 of them. I firmly believe that unless there's a medical indication, vitamin supplements just give you expensive pee :banghead: 77777777777777777777777777hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh== that meaningful addition was courtesy of lemons :P

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I think most of the ratty members around here use Viral Guard Junior syrup now since this thread was started too, or at least that's what has become the most popular vitamin supplement of choice. Especially since it has some nice ingredients to help fight off sickness too, besides being a multivitamin :P

It's also available from most pharmacies, Clicks, etc. The following is based on an average adult +-300g rat, so adjust accordingly for smaller or larger furkids:

Maintenance dosage:
0.1ml a day per rat for two weeks, then one week break
The break is because it has echinacea, so this helps to prevents any resistance buildup to it's effectiveness, a common side-effect.

Booster dosage - for sick ratties:
0.2ml per rat per day

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I am glad to hear I can use Mirracote. We use it for the ancient cats as well as the bullterriers at work and it is amazing! Apparently it is just canola oil. Rather just check with your vet before you feed the ratties canola oil though. Mirracote is very easy to get, most pet deli's as well as vets stock it. They come in large and small bottles and I think for the ratties yo will only need to give one tiny drop. I have noticed that they seem to have put something in to make it more palatable. Even our fussiest cats eat their food like its the last they will ever get when it has the stuff mixed in.

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As far as I know Mirracote is a fish oil? I might be wrong... But I give my girls some of it about twice a week on brown bread. They go bonkers for it :P Caryn, thanks for that dosage guide! *makes note on shopping list*

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With the right dry diet, you TEEEEEECHNICALLY don't need to feed vitamins. My rats no longer take any extra unless they are old and frail. What's important is that their dry mix has all the important minerals etc that are required, such as Iron, which rats need a certain quantity of as well as a roughage base (such as weetbix) to help their colons process properly. A good rat food in the mix helps ensure that they actually getting what they need. Personally I wont trust any diet other then the one I feed my rats as it has been Vet approved and, since refining it to is present state, I have had really good runs with my rats (that and i dont treat with doxy or baytril unless I HAVE to, which i haven't in over a year)

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I have to agree Mellowmich, I've only used the Viral Guard for my older ratties and when they've been a bit sniffly. I do recommend it, as it's a very good product, but I don't supplement my girls with it or anything else permanently. If you're giving them the right diet (like us humans) then adding supplements isn't necessary :bigeyerat:
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I also don't give any extra supplements to my ratties, but the boys are getting really old and I think it might be time for a bit of extra help to keep the old skin healthy. With my previous old ones I had constant coat probs. Either too greasy, causing them to really smell and leave grease marks everywhere or too dry causing them to itch and scratch holes into their bodies. Plus one ancient guy decided to get a nasty case of mite, who knows where but all I could say is blegh! Nastiest little goggos I have ever seen.

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